Interview
Mike Kelly

Professor Mike Kelly, director of the Centre of Public Health Excellence at NICE, tells Julie Cramer why the organisation is determined to get GPs prescribing exercise and physical activity

By Julie Cramer | Published in Health Club Management 2013 issue 2


“We’re not talking about a new virus or germ – it’s something within our grasp to do something about, in a fairly straightforward kind of way,” says Mike Kelly, director of the Centre of Public Health Excellence at NICE (the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence).

Kelly is not referring to some infectious disease requiring the attention of the medical community, but to the newly-defined set of lifestyle diseases – Type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, hypertension – that are linked to obesity and physical inactivity and which now urgently require a wider approach.

“We’re facing an epidemic of non-communicable diseases related to the way we live our lives – the diets we consume, the physical activity we don’t do,” says Kelly. “It’s not that we [as leaders] don’t know what to do. It’s the fact that we haven’t so far taken a systematic approach across the whole of society.”

The grim predictions by government health officials are that by 2050, more than half of the adult population in England will be obese. Current trends show that 26 per cent of adults and 16 per cent of children are now classed as obese – a condition that can have grave consequences for their long-term health, as well as placing a huge cost burden on the NHS (currently over £5bn a year and rising rapidly).

In its role as health watchdog, NICE is there to offer independent, evidence-based guidance on ways to prevent and treat illness and poor health, not only to the NHS but also to local authorities and anyone with responsibilities in healthcare, public health and social care.

Kelly says the kind of scientific evidence and data related to lifestyle diseases that NICE has been reviewing in recent years is now pointing to one very significant conclusion: “The evidence about the benefits of physical activity and the disbenefits of not being active are now scientifically utterly compelling. The issue is now one of implementation.

“We can argue about exactly how much physical activity, plus there’s an ongoing debate about weight loss and physical activity [calories in or calories out], but the problem is not a scientific one – it’s the will to make it happen”.

GP framework
NICE has therefore recently taken the significant step of recommending that physical activity be included in the QOF (Quality and Outcomes Framework) indicators for GPs. GPs are currently incentivised financially to optimise and record treatment to patients for a range of health issues such as asthma, mental health, diabetes, coronary heart disease and hypertension. Exercise is not currently on the list of incentivised treatments, but given what is known about its physical and mental benefits, offering patients exercise advice would be a major step forward.

Kelly explains: “QOF is a complex system that doesn’t involve NICE directly. NICE lines up the sort of things that could go into the QOF and then the Department of Health in the four home countries and representatives from the medical profession negotiate on them. But given the compelling evidence, physical activity is something that we will be continuing to push to the foreground as a candidate for QOF.”

The changing political health landscape is another area where Kelly sees more opportunities. Health powers will become devolved with the advent of the Health and Social Care Act, and the formation of health and wellbeing boards within local authorities on 1 April 2013 will present more ways to tackle the issue.

Kelly says: “The changes to local authorities’ responsibilities represent the biggest change in public health since the 1970s. I believe there’s a really big appetite to do it well. Effectively, prevention of heart disease and diabetes become the responsibility of the local authorities.”

To assist, Kelly says NICE will publish a series of public health briefings to help identify things local authorities can do quite quickly to improve the public health agenda.

Firstly, the institute has published a new pathway aimed at policy makers, commissioners, practitioners and other professionals, setting out how communities can help prevent overweight and obesity. These include schemes to prevent harmful drinking, nutrition advice and the appointment of local ‘obesity champions’.

Lifestyle changes
While targeted campaigns aimed at reducing salt in packaged foods, as well as the traffic light food labelling system, may be achieving traction, Kelly says much more needs to be done on a systematic basis to fully integrate changes into people’s lifestyles: “People get the message about diet, although they still find it difficult to follow a good diet, but the dangers of inactivity are not widely understood, especially the protective benefits.”

To get people moving, there’s a new set of guidelines on walking and cycling, in which NICE is advising people to make shorter journeys by foot or bicycle rather than by car. Whether it’s walking to school, work or the corner shop, the message is that these small journeys can really have a positive and accumulative effect on health.

To encourage these changes, however, Kelly says it will be up to the local authorities to modify the built environment to make it more amenable to daily physical activity: “Many things that make walking and cycling easier are within their grasp because they control traffic flow, planning regulations and so on.”

Kelly insists he is not talking about expensive infrastructure changes, but simple things to remove barriers – for example, employers offering showers at work for employees who cycle, secure parking spaces for bicycles, and for walkers, safer pavements and well-lit streets.

He admits the UK is some way off the level of the Netherlands with its enthusiastic cycling habits, but upholds as good examples cities like York and Oxford which are especially cycle-friendly, and central London’s rent-a-bike scheme.

While some solutions may seem relatively easy, Kelly also points out that things will only work if all parties are on board. “We all have to own this problem and not assume that obesity is someone else’s problem – it’s not just for doctors to sort out.

“It requires concerted efforts involving the medical profession, government, the food industry, the exercise industry, planners of transport systems, as well as all of us taking responsibility for our own health too.”

Joining forces
The increasing dialogue between the medical and fitness industries is one that Kelly welcomes, and it’s a rapprochement that he sees as vital to the future.

“There are a number of medical and fitness leaders around the country who are working tirelessly to make this happen, and I’m optimistic that we’re moving in the right direction. It’s very likely that, in the next five to 10 years, we’ll see more of this work incorporated into the medical curriculum and the training of GPs.”

Many experts have drawn a parallel between the detrimental effects of smoking and the dangers of a sedentary lifestyle. After the publication of the Doll and Hill study into the link between smoking and lung cancer in the early 1950s, Kelly says that most doctors changed their own smoking habits almost overnight: “Even today it’s still very rare to see a doctor, in the UK at least, who is a smoker. They’ve been fantastic role models for us all.

“GPs have been one of the major ways we’ve achieved success in the cessation of smoking. It leads us to assume that if they can become as single-minded in their recommendation of physical activity, they could play a very important part in the whole process.”

Carrots and sticks
An added complication with treating the so-called lifestyle diseases is that they involve tackling the complex issue of human behaviour. To this end, Kelly says NICE is currently updating its 2007 guidelines on behaviour change. “It’s one thing to resolve to change your behaviour and quite another to have continuing beneficial behaviour,” he explains.

In terms of such behaviour modification, Kelly seems to be in favour of both the carrot and the stick. “Nudge is one of the approaches, because it picks up on an important dimension in human behaviour: our response to cues in our environment which don’t require much perception or cognitive activity.

“But nudge isn’t the whole story. We’re also rational-thinking human beings and need information on which to base our decisions. Sometimes we can’t be nudged without the right kind of framework being put in place.”

To return to the case of smoking, Kelly points out that across the decades there have been some very effective public education campaigns, a gradual ‘denormalising’ of the act of smoking, increasingly fearful advertising, the banning of ads on cigarette packets, and ultimately the ban on smoking in public places.

“All of these things together have led to a remarkable improvement in people’s health with regards to heart disease, cancer and chest illnesses,” he says. But these changes took 60 years to happen and Kelly acknowledges that with the obesity and lifestyle disease ‘time-bomb’, we cannot afford to spend as long forming a solution.

He admits it may take a while for some GPs and other professionals to embrace the message of physical activity, but says: “The decisive change hasn’t happened yet – it’s been a rather slow burn – but I’m optimistic we’re talking about the medicine of the future.”


Briefing: Professor Kelly
Professor Kelly is director of the Centre of Public Health Excellence at NICE, where he leads on the development of public health guidance. He is a public health practitioner, researcher and academic. He studied Social Science at the University of York, has a Masters degree in Sociology from the University of Leicester, and undertook his PhD in the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Dundee.

His interests include evidence-based approaches to health improvement, coronary heart disease prevention, chronic illness, disability, physical activity, health inequalities, behaviour change, social identity and community involvement in health promotion.

Should we expect exercise advice from GPs? Credit: © l i g h t p o e t/shutterstock.com
People need to be more informed on the risk of conditions like diabetes Credit: © dmitry zubarev/shutterstock.com
Kelly says there is now “compelling” evidence about the benefits of exercise Credit: © Diego Cervo/shutterstock.com
 


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Professor Mike Kelly, director of the Centre of Public Health Excellence at NICE, tells Julie Cramer why the organisation is determined to get GPs prescribing exercise and physical activity

Julie Cramer
Professor Mike Kelly, director of the Centre of Public Health Excellence at NICE
Should we expect exercise advice from GPs? © l i g h t p o e t/shutterstock.com
People need to be more informed on the risk of conditions like diabetes © dmitry zubarev/shutterstock.com
Kelly says there is now “compelling” evidence about the benefits of exercise © Diego Cervo/shutterstock.com

“We’re not talking about a new virus or germ – it’s something within our grasp to do something about, in a fairly straightforward kind of way,” says Mike Kelly, director of the Centre of Public Health Excellence at NICE (the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence).

Kelly is not referring to some infectious disease requiring the attention of the medical community, but to the newly-defined set of lifestyle diseases – Type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, hypertension – that are linked to obesity and physical inactivity and which now urgently require a wider approach.

“We’re facing an epidemic of non-communicable diseases related to the way we live our lives – the diets we consume, the physical activity we don’t do,” says Kelly. “It’s not that we [as leaders] don’t know what to do. It’s the fact that we haven’t so far taken a systematic approach across the whole of society.”

The grim predictions by government health officials are that by 2050, more than half of the adult population in England will be obese. Current trends show that 26 per cent of adults and 16 per cent of children are now classed as obese – a condition that can have grave consequences for their long-term health, as well as placing a huge cost burden on the NHS (currently over £5bn a year and rising rapidly).

In its role as health watchdog, NICE is there to offer independent, evidence-based guidance on ways to prevent and treat illness and poor health, not only to the NHS but also to local authorities and anyone with responsibilities in healthcare, public health and social care.

Kelly says the kind of scientific evidence and data related to lifestyle diseases that NICE has been reviewing in recent years is now pointing to one very significant conclusion: “The evidence about the benefits of physical activity and the disbenefits of not being active are now scientifically utterly compelling. The issue is now one of implementation.

“We can argue about exactly how much physical activity, plus there’s an ongoing debate about weight loss and physical activity [calories in or calories out], but the problem is not a scientific one – it’s the will to make it happen”.

GP framework
NICE has therefore recently taken the significant step of recommending that physical activity be included in the QOF (Quality and Outcomes Framework) indicators for GPs. GPs are currently incentivised financially to optimise and record treatment to patients for a range of health issues such as asthma, mental health, diabetes, coronary heart disease and hypertension. Exercise is not currently on the list of incentivised treatments, but given what is known about its physical and mental benefits, offering patients exercise advice would be a major step forward.

Kelly explains: “QOF is a complex system that doesn’t involve NICE directly. NICE lines up the sort of things that could go into the QOF and then the Department of Health in the four home countries and representatives from the medical profession negotiate on them. But given the compelling evidence, physical activity is something that we will be continuing to push to the foreground as a candidate for QOF.”

The changing political health landscape is another area where Kelly sees more opportunities. Health powers will become devolved with the advent of the Health and Social Care Act, and the formation of health and wellbeing boards within local authorities on 1 April 2013 will present more ways to tackle the issue.

Kelly says: “The changes to local authorities’ responsibilities represent the biggest change in public health since the 1970s. I believe there’s a really big appetite to do it well. Effectively, prevention of heart disease and diabetes become the responsibility of the local authorities.”

To assist, Kelly says NICE will publish a series of public health briefings to help identify things local authorities can do quite quickly to improve the public health agenda.

Firstly, the institute has published a new pathway aimed at policy makers, commissioners, practitioners and other professionals, setting out how communities can help prevent overweight and obesity. These include schemes to prevent harmful drinking, nutrition advice and the appointment of local ‘obesity champions’.

Lifestyle changes
While targeted campaigns aimed at reducing salt in packaged foods, as well as the traffic light food labelling system, may be achieving traction, Kelly says much more needs to be done on a systematic basis to fully integrate changes into people’s lifestyles: “People get the message about diet, although they still find it difficult to follow a good diet, but the dangers of inactivity are not widely understood, especially the protective benefits.”

To get people moving, there’s a new set of guidelines on walking and cycling, in which NICE is advising people to make shorter journeys by foot or bicycle rather than by car. Whether it’s walking to school, work or the corner shop, the message is that these small journeys can really have a positive and accumulative effect on health.

To encourage these changes, however, Kelly says it will be up to the local authorities to modify the built environment to make it more amenable to daily physical activity: “Many things that make walking and cycling easier are within their grasp because they control traffic flow, planning regulations and so on.”

Kelly insists he is not talking about expensive infrastructure changes, but simple things to remove barriers – for example, employers offering showers at work for employees who cycle, secure parking spaces for bicycles, and for walkers, safer pavements and well-lit streets.

He admits the UK is some way off the level of the Netherlands with its enthusiastic cycling habits, but upholds as good examples cities like York and Oxford which are especially cycle-friendly, and central London’s rent-a-bike scheme.

While some solutions may seem relatively easy, Kelly also points out that things will only work if all parties are on board. “We all have to own this problem and not assume that obesity is someone else’s problem – it’s not just for doctors to sort out.

“It requires concerted efforts involving the medical profession, government, the food industry, the exercise industry, planners of transport systems, as well as all of us taking responsibility for our own health too.”

Joining forces
The increasing dialogue between the medical and fitness industries is one that Kelly welcomes, and it’s a rapprochement that he sees as vital to the future.

“There are a number of medical and fitness leaders around the country who are working tirelessly to make this happen, and I’m optimistic that we’re moving in the right direction. It’s very likely that, in the next five to 10 years, we’ll see more of this work incorporated into the medical curriculum and the training of GPs.”

Many experts have drawn a parallel between the detrimental effects of smoking and the dangers of a sedentary lifestyle. After the publication of the Doll and Hill study into the link between smoking and lung cancer in the early 1950s, Kelly says that most doctors changed their own smoking habits almost overnight: “Even today it’s still very rare to see a doctor, in the UK at least, who is a smoker. They’ve been fantastic role models for us all.

“GPs have been one of the major ways we’ve achieved success in the cessation of smoking. It leads us to assume that if they can become as single-minded in their recommendation of physical activity, they could play a very important part in the whole process.”

Carrots and sticks
An added complication with treating the so-called lifestyle diseases is that they involve tackling the complex issue of human behaviour. To this end, Kelly says NICE is currently updating its 2007 guidelines on behaviour change. “It’s one thing to resolve to change your behaviour and quite another to have continuing beneficial behaviour,” he explains.

In terms of such behaviour modification, Kelly seems to be in favour of both the carrot and the stick. “Nudge is one of the approaches, because it picks up on an important dimension in human behaviour: our response to cues in our environment which don’t require much perception or cognitive activity.

“But nudge isn’t the whole story. We’re also rational-thinking human beings and need information on which to base our decisions. Sometimes we can’t be nudged without the right kind of framework being put in place.”

To return to the case of smoking, Kelly points out that across the decades there have been some very effective public education campaigns, a gradual ‘denormalising’ of the act of smoking, increasingly fearful advertising, the banning of ads on cigarette packets, and ultimately the ban on smoking in public places.

“All of these things together have led to a remarkable improvement in people’s health with regards to heart disease, cancer and chest illnesses,” he says. But these changes took 60 years to happen and Kelly acknowledges that with the obesity and lifestyle disease ‘time-bomb’, we cannot afford to spend as long forming a solution.

He admits it may take a while for some GPs and other professionals to embrace the message of physical activity, but says: “The decisive change hasn’t happened yet – it’s been a rather slow burn – but I’m optimistic we’re talking about the medicine of the future.”


Briefing: Professor Kelly
Professor Kelly is director of the Centre of Public Health Excellence at NICE, where he leads on the development of public health guidance. He is a public health practitioner, researcher and academic. He studied Social Science at the University of York, has a Masters degree in Sociology from the University of Leicester, and undertook his PhD in the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Dundee.

His interests include evidence-based approaches to health improvement, coronary heart disease prevention, chronic illness, disability, physical activity, health inequalities, behaviour change, social identity and community involvement in health promotion.


Originally published in Health Club Management 2013 issue 2

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